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From: Bonnie Schrack <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Berbers and Mennonites
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:53:22 -0500
> As both the Swiss Mennonite/Anabaptist project and the
> Prussian/Russian project move forward I think it would be good to compare
> notes periodically on surnames that appear in both groups.
By all means!
> Another surname
> found in both groups is Funk.
I haven't looked into either of these families for lack of time, but as
you know there were a few Swiss families who took the Eastern route to
Prussia, Galicia, Russia, etc., and among them were the Schrags, my
cousins, who settled in Kansas.
So for these shared surnames we should try to determine whether any of
them were families of Swiss origin that went East to some of the same
regions as your Mennonites. Maybe they had separate congregations/
communities (Gemeinde), but perhaps sometimes they merged out there?
> I found a male Bender in the SMGF database
> who descends from a John Peter Bender (b. 11 Oct 1737). He lived in
> Northampton Co., PA and was married to Catherine Babb. It doesn't look
> his descendant's haplotype is a close match to the Penner haplotype,
> however. There is also a Bender surname project at
> http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/b/bender/results.html. None of those
> results seem to closely match the Penner haplotype either.
Thanks for pointing that out, I was thinking there ought to be a Bender
surname project. Now that you brought it to my attention, I see that
the third haplotype, Bendert, is a very interesting J2a1 of some kind;
he falls into the pre-J2a1k category, but with some unprecedented values
at significant markers, such as 450=10 (all other J haplotypes have 8
except for J2a1k and pre-k, which have 9 at 450, until now).
If anyone happens to have any connection to this person, I hope you will
urge him to join the J haplogroup project. Unfortunately this project
doesn't seem to have an admin other than Terry Barton.
Ricardo, thanks for your eye-opener regarding the capacity of the Dutch
for violence like any other people.
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