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From: Beth Long <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] E3b1a2 V13+ SNP-tested modal posted to YSearch
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:02:20 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <9BC03B29-1294-4D7F-AD6F-662ACB426333@vizachero.com>


Hi Vince,

I would say that those ethnic groups more likely to have migrated to the U.S. would be grossly overrepresented in such a sample. That in itself is enough to skew any result. For example, more Italians and European Jews, fewer Romanians,Turks, Bulgarians,I raqis, etc. (just to mention some groups having a fair amount of E3b)

Don't get me wrong; it's always great to have data, even if it's a biased sample. We just need to be aware of the lomitations in drawing broad conclusions.

It's too bad that there seems to be no mechanism for folks who have already "maxed out" on their own personal testing to sponsor just a basic 12-marker for someone in a less-developed part of the world. Just a thought...

Beth Long


Vincent Vizachero <> wrote: The important (and so far unanswered) question is this: on what
basis should we expect that E3b1a2 people who order the V13 test
have a different haplotype than people who are E3b1a2 but do NOT
order a V13 test?

More to the point, how would a difference between rich and poor
E3b1a2 folks that is strong enough to actually bias the calculated
modal arise and persist.

Vince


On Dec 9, 2007, at 4:21 PM, Lawrence Mayka wrote:
> Getting back to yDNA tests, my point was that the population
> willing to
> purchase not only 37 markers (which often have practical genealogical
> utility) but also a deepSNP-E3b test and a V Series test (typically
> luxuries, only rarely of practical value to those already at 37
> markers) is
> going to be _doubly_ skewed.
>
>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ron Schaming
>> As I understand the collection of DNA data provided
>> by interested
>> individuals, I fail to see where their financial ability to
>> provide those
>> samples has any more impact to the modal values than any
>> other sampling
>> result that is not properly collected.
>
>
>
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