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From: ellen Levy <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Ashkenazim (was Germans who carry J and G (was PLOSGenetics)
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:51:22 -0800 (PST)
Please clarify, as it is clear you do not wish me to
misquote you or misunderstand you.
You are asserting that Jews arrived in the land of
Israel in ancient times (ie, much more recently than
8000 years ago)?
What is your evidence that Jews (actually the ancient
Israelites) arrived from the region around Iraq in
ancient times? When is "ancient times" exactly?
What is the evidence that the ancient Israelites
arrived from anywhere other than ancient Israel?
--- Bonnie Schrack <> wrote:
> Hi Ellen and all,
> I wouldn't want anyone to get the wrong idea about
> what I actually wrote.
> Ellen said:
> > For instance, I'm not sure what the basis of your
> > assertion that Jews originally arrived in Israel
> > the region of today's Iraq 8,000 years ago? Do
> > mean that is where haplogroup J2 originated?
> What I did write was:
> >The Jews arrived in the land of Israel in ancient
> times -- yet it was
> > much more recently than 8000 years ago -- from
> somewhere around today's
> > Iraq, but we don't consider them Iraqis, do we?
> Again, let me repeat, in caps, so there will be no
> mistaking my words: they arrived in ancient times,
> yet "MUCH MORE RECENTLY THAN 8000 YEARS AGO."
> I know you weren't putting me down, Ellen, but you
> can see my words said something other than what you
> had paraphrased.
> Other than that, I don't see anything to disagree
> with in Ellen's contribution.
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