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From: Denis Savard <>
Subject: [DNA] mtDNA H1 Phylogenetic Tree suggested
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:21:20 -0500
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As more FGS become available, we can start studying the deep
phylogeny of the mtDNA tree.

I have started a H1 tree, listing all usefull mutations of available
H1 FGS results. I'm limiting myself to H1 hoping it will be a
manageable size while including private SNPs.

I've started with mitotypes from scientific papers, mitomap, cross-
referenced with Ian Logan's list, and added some other results
received privately.

The in-progress tree is located:
http://savart.info/h1.htm

Please point me to any samples not yet included.

I am also taking private submissions, for people who are not
comfortable in posting their results to public databases. On my tree,
only a sample number is posted publicly, with possibly a country code
for origins.

Most markers that now appear to be "private" (in Italic) will not
doubt loose that status as new results trickle in, since so few have
so far taken the FGS test. A specific marker is classified under a
proposed nomenclature (which will be in flux for awhile) when
evidence shows it's common to two samples.

Since H1f has been proposed being downstream of H1b in a few
publications over the last few years, I have reclassified it there,
and I've assigned my own subclade (4733C) to H1f. I could not find
reference to the markers defining subclades H1d and H1e, or if a H1g
ever existed, so I have reassigned those also. I can re-arrange if
that information is put forth.

For classification, starting at H1d, i've assigned the suggested
subclade marker according to weight (phylogenetic complexity and
number of samples).

Samples results are confusing under H1b. I suggest a reverse mutation
of 5460 (which defines H1b) which reverts to its original state in a
few of its subclades. That seems like a viable hypothesis for now.

Version 9 is the first "classified" version.

Although my initial suggestions are arbitraty, I'd like to develop
the tree on collaborative concensus level. I will annote the page
with competing hypothesis as situations arises, and links to relevant
discussions on this list's archive for example.

Thank you for your attention, and Happy 2008!

Denis Savard
Y-E3b1c1 mt-H1f2
E3b Project co-GA
Savard Project GA
Montreuil (France) GA

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