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From: "Ken Roberts" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Nature Genetics: A Genetic View of Jewish History
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:44:52 -0600
In-Reply-To: <344620.67745.qm@web52105.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


Frankly, my dear, I think you should drop it.

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[mailto:] On Behalf Of ellen Levy
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [DNA] Nature Genetics: A Genetic View of Jewish History


Ken:

You are quite clearly entitled your opinion on what
should be considered "racist" and whether it should be
based on a persons words or actions. But what is your
point, really, as such considerations are always
inherently subjective?

Furthermore, I made it clear I wasn't calling Jon
himself racist, nor was his offer of a refund based on
such an allegation but rather on finding something in
his book that could "legitimately" be considered
racist.

More importantly, though, is what did you yourself
gather from the quotations I just provided as well as
your own readings? Were Jews put forth in the book as
a race? And if not, what were they put forth as in
your opinion (it would be of great assistance if you
could provide the page number and perhaps the quote if possible)?

What I would much prefer here is to have my questions
and comments addressed by Jon concerning the DNA
findings and quotes from researchers rather than have
this possibly degenerate into discussions about
constitutes "racism."

However, Jon, you do keep opening the door to such a
discussion when you repeatedly bring up the offer for
a refund if someone can locate something racist in
your book.

Ellen Coffman

--- Ken Nordtvedt <> wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ellen Levy" <>
>
> I'm not necessarily accusing you of
> > being racist, Jon. I certainly wish that to be
> > understood.
>
> But the comments used in the book
> > certainly can be interpreted as such.
>
> Perhaps by you, but certainly not by me. The
> "racist" charge seems quite
> subjective, particularly when applied to allegations
> of what someone says or
> is thought to believe, the accusation should
> probably be confined to actions
> people take. Ken
>
>
>
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