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From: "Sasson Margaliot" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Hammer's Y Haplogroup Tree
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:24:02 +0200
References: <PM.7680.1207344563@hmweb-1.uk1.bibliotech.net><246baaff0804071613m59cd805avfbdecb8ecc760299@mail.gmail.com><001801c89905$e68967b0$6400a8c0@Ken1>
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Ken,

Speaking of upstream Haplogroups, was the genuine P* (which is neither Q nor
R)
ever observed ?

The designation P* is often used in articles, but the list of tested SNPs
usually doesn't allow to exclude both R2 and Q. These articles are then
mistakenly understood by some readers as claiming to find genuine P* (which
they don't) , and then on-line texts claim existence of P*.

Distribution of both R* and R1* may point to Pakistan, rather than Europe,
as the point of origin
of R1. Was R1* ever reported in Europe ?


Sasson

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008, Ken wrote:

>
>
>
> How would you go about supporting or rejecting this idea? Are any
> upstream
> haplogroup populations, R1*, R*, etc. large enough to aid the process?
>


----- Original Message from: "Havelock Vetinari"

> I am suggesting that both R1a and R1b are descended from an Ice Age
> inhabitant of Europe - whether that inhabitant lived in western or
> eastern Europe is unknown.

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