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From: "Alister John Marsh" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] 12 STR tests are useful (was Re: Some truthinarticle(wasRe: Answer from Ancestors Magazine))
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:08:05 +1200
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Peter,

Anyone rich enough could pay for a full genome sequence, (which would
probably yield more than 300 Y STRs), and pay for all suspected relations to
test 300 Y STRs also. I am sure you would agree that 300 STRs in that
situation would be "more informative" than 12.

Should we all be testing 300 markers in every situation, rather than testing
12, 37 or 67 in some situations? A 300 marker test is a "higher resolution
tool" than a 67 marker test.

Interestingly, I recently could have used a Commodore 64 computer if I had
one, to retrieve some old files stored on tape. Unfortunately, my state of
the art modern computer can't read the old tape cassettes used by the
Commodore 64. There are some things you can do on a Commodore 64 that you
can't do on a normal modern computer.

John.

-----Original Message-----
From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Peter A. Kincaid
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:31 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [DNA] 12 STR tests are useful (was Re: Some truth
inarticle(wasRe: Answer from Ancestors Magazine))

Your own words wipe out your argument
and supports mine. It is a worthwhile objective
to use the best tool for the job. A 37 marker
test is better than and 25 marker test which is
better than 12 markers. I think there are
people on this list wise enough to use the higher
resolution tools. I suppose in your world it
would be great to still be able to buy Commodore
VIC 20s. Sure there could be a use for them,
but a person buying their first computer so they
can surf the Internet will later be ticked off if they
were led to believe a VIC 20 would do.

Peter


----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Vizachero" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] 12 STR tests are useful (was Re: Some truth in
article(wasRe: Answer from Ancestors Magazine))


> The only worthwhile objective is to find the best tool for the job.
> There are plenty of people in the field who recognize that, thankfully.
>
> If you someone can't figure out how to use a 12 marker test
> productively, that is no one's business but theirs I suppose, but
> hopefully people on this list are wise enough to recognize that the
> problem lies in the implementor and not in the implement.
>
> Vince
>
>
> On May 17, 2008, at 12:24 PM, Peter A. Kincaid wrote:
>
>> You are confusing ulterior objectives with "know better."


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