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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:21:58 -0600
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Oh oh, missing pair of numbers in new nomenclature; I mean R1b1b1 and R1b1b2
from R1b1b I guess. But more important is what node you meant? Maybe you
mean the same S21/S28 node? Find a 100 Epsteins who caught my eye in the
S28 haplotype list and you'd change things. I suspect it would push back
both the node and the age of S28.

Ken

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
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Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff


> What nodes are you talking about --- R1b1 and R1b2 from R1b? What are the
> "expectations"? Any? It will be an entirely different data set
> comparison.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lawrence Mayka" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff
>
>
>> It will be interesting to see whether your numbers significantly change
>> when
>> the first crop of Deep Clade-R results arrive. My own project has 6 such
>> orders on Slavic R1b1 members, of varying haplotypes:
>>
>> A7FCR, HXZBW, 35TRY, 6BKHS, G9A25, GK6S5
>>
>>> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Ken Nordtvedt
>>> If the 130 "S21" haplotypes all happened to miss descending
>>> from one of the
>>> sons of the S21 MRCA, then I guess a brand new bunch of S21
>>> haplotypes who
>>> did descend from that son could move the MRCA backward. But
>>> their effect on
>>> the estimated date of the S21/S28 MRCA should be less ---
>>> statistical rather
>>> than fundamental.
>>
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