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From: "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff
Date: Wed, 21 May 2008 11:10:01 +0100
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Alan, you finally asked the question that was in my mind as I was reading
through the thread - 'Where did the MRCA of the R1b folk around 1600BC or
the S116 ancestor a little later live?'

Your earlier post made it seem that they had to come from somewhere outside
into the areas in which they are now most prevalent. It would seem logical
that the MRCA actually lived in the neighborhood.

You also commented that 'Most people agree that reproductive advantage lay
with the elites.' I've never considered this to be a given. The MRCA could
have been a trader, leaving seed behind as he journeyed about...his sons
could have followed in their father's footsteps. They might not have been
elites at all. Finding a lot of aDNA with S21/S28 in elite burials in
addition to absence of other subclades would help your hypothesis, but is
that likely?

While accept David's extensive research supporting his connection of S28 to
the La Tene Celts, it's not as if they were the only Celts. They're still a
minority population, at least with the amount of testing currently done to
indicate so. Time, and more testing, will help us no doubt.

Elizabeth

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