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From: Matt Winters <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff
Date: 21 May 2008 09:06:23 -0700


Quite a few of we R1b1c*s have tested for S116, and most of we who have done so are positive. In the DNA Forum poll, the overall count is roughly 70/30 +/- and R1b1c* is a considerable chunk of that.

For whatever it's worth -- perhaps not a lot -- last time I ran all the S116+ project results through Dean McGee's program, using the default assumptions, the maximum time back to MRCA ancestor was about 4,800 years, or roughly 3000 BCE.

Perhaps we're still dealing with an awfully small data set to arrive at very meaningful conclusions?

-M
KT43P



On Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:16 AM, Elizabeth O'Donoghue <> wrote:
>Alan, I'm not sure you can say that Ken's dates 'imply that all S116+ R1b
>and also S21 post-dates 1600BC so that would include almost all of the
>R1b1c* folk too'. Do we know enough about R1b1c* (old name) to make such an
>assumption? Maybe I've missed it - have any R1b1c* been tested
>for S116?




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