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From: Bob Hay <>
Subject: [DNA] S21/S28 Split+m223 stuff
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 16:30:16 +1000


John Laws wrote:
>I have been reading this line with interest. I have not commented as I claim
no expertise in this area but have been studying the Druid class
>(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid)
>They fit in with the S28 model as they are believed to have started in the
>proto-celtic La Tene Culture. The Druids were the 'learned' class that
>provided the priests, judges, and doctors among other jobs.,....

John, it seems to me that we on this list are going in the same direction
the many related disciplines have gone, that is, not listening to each
other's contributions. Dr. David Faux has long been suggesting - almost
shouting in the wind sometimes - for a multi-disciplinary approach. Genetic
genealogy so far has perhaps been less parochial than others such as
linguistics and archaeology have been elsewhere but there is still a
tendency to ignore the knowledge base and methodologies of other
disciplines.

Personally, I always read with pleasure Alan R's contributions here from his
archaeological background and marvel at the breadth of Dr Faux's vision of
the history of the Celtic peoples. I don't follow the statistical wizardry
of Drs Nordtvedt, Mayka, Vizachero and the many others of this ilk, but I
know what they do is essential and look forward to some eventual discovery.

But, for all these fascinating contributions, I still think an earlier
suggestion (maybe by the ubiquitous Dr Faux, I cannot be sure) would be a
big advance, that some kind of consortium or colloquium be established to
research and pool findings in a completely multi-disciplinary manner. To
some extent this is what Jacques Beaugrand is doing with his S28+ Agora
(http://cerbere.ca/S28/) but personally I would like to see the scope
widened, so that people with special interests in areas of "Celtic" (I am a
bit of Celtic sceptic) life and history could pool their researches so that
the genetics might be better fleshed out by history and related disciplines.
For example, although many of us might have some knowledge of the Druids, it
could be greatly furthered if you were to take this as a special project and
report your researches back to the colloquium.....

Sometimes I think we get lost in alleles and SNPs and forget that our
ancestors were once real people who had lives to live.


Bob Hay
at home at
www.bobhay.net
H3EQG - R1b-S28+







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