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From: "David Faux" <>
Subject: [DNA] R1b1b2h (S28/U152) Published Article + Database Update andNew Map
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 23:04:42 -0700


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I stupidly purchased (for an extraordinary price) the two page article by
Niederstatter et al. (2008) noted by Mike Maddi exploring the percentages of
U106, U198, U152 and "unresolved R1b". See his posting at
http://dnaforums.org for access to the article.

In terms of U152/S28 (old R1b1c10) the above sampled men from the Austrian
Tyrol around Innsbruck and of the 135 men, 31% were R1b. As to U152, 7% of
the total sample were of this haplogroup - which represented 21.4% of the
R1b group (about half of the U106 and U198 findings) but higher than the
"unresolved" group which probably included a majority of S116 minus
"Eastern" R1b1b2.

Tonight I also updated my database for U152 at
http://www.davidkfaux.org/R1b1c10_Data.htm. I constructed a map (thanks to
John Laws for getting me started in this venture). I have also included
boundaries for the Continental Celts (via the Koch, 2007 Atlas of Celtic
Studies based on archaeology and linguistics), as well as the Celtic
homeland suggested by the archaeological data and historical information.
The map includes both commercial and research findings. In addition
boundaries are shown around the U152 group in England - which is almost
exclusively restricted to the Danelaw - still. The Scottish distribution
appears to reflect the known presence of U152 in Scandinavia. There is only
one person from Ireland who can provide a specific location for their
earliest known ancestor (and they have an English or Norman surname). Very
unusual pattern which begs an explanation. I have explored every single
imaginable source for archaeology and there is no evidence of a migration
from the Continent that could explain this distribution - and considering
its restricted spread the migration must have been recent (unless I am
missing something).

There are more studies coming down the pike which will include U152. It
seems that the above article will be the thin edge of the wedge and things
will soon start snowballing.

David K. Faux.

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