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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] How could we tell?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:13:11 -0600
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I think I agree with you; some deliberately planted, falsely surnamed, dna
samples of "fathers" or "cousins" sent in for testing should expose the

----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Wing" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] How could we tell?

> This would just be too much work for a company to achieve.
> We all know how "accurate" the LDS familysearch site is (as well as other
> online genealogy databases).
> In addition, there will be people who know that their surname is not their
> direct male line (whether through adoption or what have you), but a
> company would not have that knowledge.
> --- On Wed, 6/11/08, Ken Nordtvedt &lt;&gt; wrote:
> From: Ken Nordtvedt &lt;&gt;
> Subject: [DNA] How could we tell?
> To:
> Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008, 6:21 PM
> Suppose we were reduced to a single testing company? I just woke from an
> afternoon nap --- the snow, rain, and wind here is so ferocious there was
> not
> much else to do. I had a quasi-dream about a wonderful spoof a single
> testing
> company could play on us all.
> Suppose they never did a lab measurement, but instead had a well done
> computer
> program that just generated "results" for us according to some decent
> mathematical rules which mimick what STR markers would do. They had a
> whole
> virtual construction of mankind's tree of ydna and mtdna, its
> "history", and the geographical distributions it leaves today, and of
> course the narratives we read about to go along with it. They kept track
> via
> the LDS genealogical records, etc., how close we are to others of our
> surnames,
> etc........, so their computer could spit out reasonable GDs among
> ourselves.
> And on and on. Actually, it might cost a company more to run the spoof
> than to
> just test us for what we really are, although I'm not sure.
> How would we go about exposing such a spoof?
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