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From: bill brock <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] RES: Brilliant!
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:32:13 +0000
I can't argue with your comments. Its what I learned in school. But I think we from the U.S. have a habit of shortening names. And we are the United States, of America, not the only America. But cut us some slack. Wouldn't it sound funny to call ourselves United Statesians? :-)
As someone named Billy, rather than William ,I have enough trouble with names.
Bill (y)> From: > To: > Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:45:57 -0300> Subject: [DNA] RES: Brilliant!> > We are in a scientific list and the naming of America is a documented> historical fact.> Amerigo Vespucci wrote letters from his voyages to the New World that had a> very important impact in the Old World describing the new lands. Martin> Waldseemüller published a new map containing the name America (related to> Amerigo-Américo) for the first time in 1507. Amerigo-Américo had navigated> with the Portuguese in the land mass that would become the Brazilian Litoral> and Waldseemüller drawed the name America in the "Tropic of Capricorn" of> the new land mass, so the first and original America is South America by the> right of baptism and historical register, or copyright if we want!> The English were latecomers to America and they could only settle> permanently in the 17th Century in a part of the Continent that the others> had not been interested before. > So America is the name of the entire Continent, the name of the so called> Western Hemisphere (South, Central, North America). > In historical terms the United States is not the authentic America because> they are latecomers to the American land, they are only a part of America.> The Spanish and Portuguese (in peace or fighting each other) were the first> in the making of America and that's the name of the Continent e ponto final.> > If tomorrow astronauts want to name a new planet as America, no problem,> they can do it but at least they must recognize the verbatim copying or> imitation of the name of another America and I hope they don't represent the> new America as one’s own original America. Once upon a time there has been> an original America with Amerigo Vespucci and Waldseemuller ... > Every man has the right to live in a historical continent and keep the name> of his original continent independently of a posterior replication or> metonymy, a figure of speech that uses one object in place of another> related concept!> > Good Sunday !> Ricardo > > -----Mensagem original-----> De: > [mailto:] Em nome de Elizabeth Kipp> Enviada em: domingo, 15 de junho de 2008 12:07> Para: > Assunto: Re: [DNA] Brilliant!> > As a Canadian I tend to agree that American refers to those who live in the> United States of America. If I am being hemispheric I refer to myself as a> North American. I am not the least bothered by Americans referring to> themselves as American. After all they coined the term "United States of> America." Where I am has been called Canada for a long time. Although the> word actually means village apparently but it was a misunderstanding when> the early French explorers asked for the name of the place and were told> Canada. > > http://www.canadianaconnection.com/cca/name_canada.htm> > Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, PLCGS> Guild of one-name studies #4600 - LAMBDEN, PINCOMBE and SIDERFIN> Webpage: http://ca.geocities.com//> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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