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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION?
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 14:40:16 -0600
References: <936471110807091219n1e817524o7f64ec98109e861d@mail.gmail.com>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Villarreal" <>

> Other than that, I can see that the introduction of your logarithmic
> formula
> has merits when applied under some specific conditions.


The logarithmic expression for remaining founding haplotypes quickly
deviates from the logarithmic dependence. And it has huge STATISTICAL
errors (confidence intervals) associated with it. Other than that, it's
fine. Ken

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  • [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Nelda Percival <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Beth Long <>
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  • [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Victor Villarreal" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sasson Margaliot" <>
        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "adam bradford" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sasson Margaliot" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "adam bradford" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Bob Bootle" <>
                      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sasson Margaliot" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Victor Villarreal" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
                      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Victor Villarreal" <>

    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>

  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
    • [DNA] Anatole - calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Nelda Percival <>
  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Beth Long <>
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  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "John E. Mellick" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
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    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
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    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
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    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sasson Margaliot" <>
  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by (John Chandler)
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
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        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by (John Chandler)
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by (John Chandler)
              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Sandy Paterson " <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by (John Chandler)
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  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
              • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
                • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
                  • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by Vincent Vizachero <>
                      • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
                        • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                          • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
                            • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
                    • Re: [DNA] calibrating for common ancestor - QUESTION? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
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