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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Age of R1b
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:19:54 -0600
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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Faux" <>

> The authors are interpreting their data in support of haplogroup R (they
> don't specify beyond this other than to refer to Wells et al., 2001 so we
> can assume some form of R1b) arriving with the first wave of the
> Arignacian
> to Portugal circa 35,000 years ago.

Yes, and I'm right now staring at Wells' Figure 9, page 181 in Journey of
Man, copyright 2002.
Then the same on pages 74, 112, 140. I could quote some totally misleading
text that goes with these Figures but I won't bother.

Either he or his publishing illustrator did not then understand that SNP
mutations don't exist at tree nodes.
I wonder how many people have been sent down an intellectual dead end with
those Figures?



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