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From: Vincent Vizachero <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Age of R1b
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:13:00 -0400
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On Sep 8, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Alan R wrote:

> Anyway, all of this requires the sources of LBK (Hungary) and
> Cardial (Adriatic Balkans) to have harboured R1b at the time of the
> expansions. How it got there is also interesting. Did it arrive
> with the Neolithic from Turkey to the Adriatic to the southern-
> central Balkans and then on to Hungary and the Adriatic Balkans or
> was it a native group who were there pre-farming? Being successful
> twice in the Neolithic spread would tilt me towards a Neolithic
> arrival. This would all point to the Anatolian origin as the area
> north of the Black Sea was a relative backwater.

I tend to agree that Neolithic arrival in SE Europe (i.e. Hungary
and the Balkans) from SW Asia makes the most sense to me, as the
STR diversity in the Balkans (and I think also Hungary) is somewhat
less than points east (e.g. Anatolia).

VV


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