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From: "Michael Walsh" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now?
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:17:12 -0500

--------- Itzhak Epstein wrote: Why don't the current K(1-4) equally deserve their own letters? --------- My response: Sorry, K1, K3 and K4 had no Presidents. lol. K2 had Thomas Jefferson so he gets his own letter, "T" for Thomas.

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[DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dennis Wright" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "J.M. or M.C. Aviles" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
- [DNA] How do you figre ot what you are? R1b1c* by Nelda Percival <>
  - Re: [DNA] How do you figre ot what you are? R1b1c* by "Mark D. Johnson" <>
    - Re: [DNA] How do you figre ot what you are? R1b1c* by Nelda Percival <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Gary Corbett" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Itzhak Epstein <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Cheryl Simani <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
- [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Alan R <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
- [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Bob Hay <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by charles <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Tim Janzen" <>
        Re: [DNA] Age of L2+ by charles <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Tim Janzen" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by David F Reynolds <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by David F Reynolds <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Michael Walsh" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by David F Reynolds <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Michael Walsh" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dennis Wright" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Michael Walsh" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Alan R <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
      - [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by Itzhak Epstein <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by Itzhak Epstein <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by Itzhak Epstein <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] R-P312? (was: What shall R1b1c call themselves now?) by "RICHARD KENYON" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Bob Bootle" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? (was: What shall R1b1c callthemselves now?) by Itzhak Epstein <>
        Re: [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? by "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>
        Re: [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? (was: What shall R1b1ccall themselves now?) by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? (was: What shall R1b1ccall themselves now?) by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] Haplogroups? Clades? Haplotypes? (was: What shall R1b1ccall themselves now?) by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        [DNA] nomenclature by David F Reynolds <>
        Re: [DNA] nomenclature by Katherine Hope Borges <>
        Re: [DNA] nomenclature by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] nomenclature by David F Reynolds <>
        Re: [DNA] nomenclature by David F Reynolds <>
        [DNA] mtdna question by Nelda Percival <>
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by marianne dillow <>
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by marianne dillow <>
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by Nelda Percival <>
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by
        Re: [DNA] mtdna question by Nelda Percival <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Thomas Gull <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Thomas Gull <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Alan R <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Lawrence Mayka" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] Variance - was What shall R1b1c call themselves by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dennis Wright" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Alan R <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dennis Wright" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Dennis Wright" <>
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- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Jim T <>
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- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Sasson Margaliot" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "R. Stevens" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Jim Cullen" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Lawrence Mayka" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Anatole Klyosov" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Daniel Jenkins <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Daniel Jenkins <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Daniel Jenkins <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Elizabeth O'Donoghue" <>
  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Tim Janzen" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Peter Langley" <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Beth Long <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Daniel Jenkins <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Michael Walsh" <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Thomas Gull <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
      - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "David Faux" <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Thomas Gull <>
        Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Vincent Vizachero <>
- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Jim Cullen" <>
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- Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by Alan R <>
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  - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by "Alfred A. Aburto Jr." <>
    - Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now? by (John Chandler)
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