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From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Help with 66/67 and 67/67 match
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:16:06 -0400
References: <C4EED3F6.F744%bobhay@optusnet.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <C4EED3F6.F744%bobhay@optusnet.com.au>


Very confident. This page gives you some idea:
http://www.familytreedna.com/GDRules_67.html

The big question is which one of you has the NPE, because one of you does.

Do either of you match anyone else? This gets to be an "out-man-out" thing. If
either of you matches someone else of the same surname, the probability
immediately shifts towards the odd individual having the NPE.

I might make a general comment here, too. Most of the time, you want to ignore
low-level matches in other surnames, but every now again, I have a member who
matches no one of his surname, despites dozens having been tested. Yet he has
three matches with one other surname. This situation shrieeks "NPE"!

The longer you go without a match in your surname, the more attention you want
to pay to any multiple matches you have with a single other name.

>From a practical standpoint, when you match someone with another surname, you
want to closely examine your lines to see if your lines ever cross paths.
Surprisingly often, at least when working on Americans, I find a point in time
where the families are living near, if not adjacent to one another. Here are
some examples from my projects:

http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/DNA/NPE_Resolutions.shtml

NPE's are a big blow to those who get them, but take heart, they are not
hopeless.

Diana

> -----Original Message-----
> From: On Behalf Of Bob Hay
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:56 PM
> To:
> Subject: [DNA] Help with 66/67 and 67/67 match
>
> Over the past 5-6 years I have subscribed to this List I have
> never bothered
> to read posts about people looking for ³long-lost cousins² or
> questioning
> ³matches². My interest has been in human movements in Deep Time and
> pre-history ­ I have more than enough dead relatives to last
> a life-time.
>
> Now, however, something has happened which has piqued my
> curiosity. Some guy
> and his cousin whose ancestors lived in Pennsylvania and
> later in South
> Carolina during the 1700s turned up ³matching² my results
> 66/67 and 67/67
> respectively. We have different surnames and they are
> ³brick-walled² in
> North America whereas I know my ancestry (some of those dead
> relatives) back
> to 1777 in Nairn, Scotland. I have no knowledge of any male
> ancestor ever
> being in America except the man who married back in 1777 was
> recorded in the
> OPR of Scotland as ³pensioner², meaning he was an invalided soldier or
> militia man of some kind. Maybe he could have been stationed
> in America ­
> the War of Independence comes to mind, but I don¹t know
> enough American
> history to know if British soldiers ever got close enough to
> South Carolina
> to seduce/rape or whatever a local woman.
>
> Would some kind Lister who knows about these things please tell me how
> confident I should be assuming that those guys and I are
> related probably in
> the 18th Century and that they therefore would be advised to
> start searching
> Scottish records, essentially in Nairnshire and western
> Morayshire, for
> possible ancestors?
>
> Bob Hay
>
> Bob Hay
> at home at
> www.bobhay.net
> H3EQG - R-U152
>
>
>
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