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From: Vincent Vizachero <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] What shall R1b1c call themselves now?
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:57:48 -0400
On Sep 15, 2008, at 8:40 PM, David Faux wrote:
> Yes Vince you can end up with a TMCA in the Neolithic or Bronze Age
> or even
> more recent unless you use corrected calibrated dating techniques
> such as
The ZUF rates have nothing to do with this question, and should not
be used to estimate the TMRCA of haplogroups in any event.
> I don't think that anything other than ancient DNA or total
> agreement amoung professional population geneticists can or should
> us of anything. There is too much controversy swirling about.
There is more misunderstanding than controversy, I think, though I
note that those who misunderstand seem to do so persistently.