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From: "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] What is a clade?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:05:46 +0300
The line of ancestors isn't the only set of Y-chromosomes that would
be erroneously assigned to the clade. Any men that are G generations
away along Y-chromosome lines would be erroneously assigned, e.g., the
founder's brothers and their sons, his paternal uncles and a whole
bunch of other men who aren't his descendants but are linked via
patrilineal transmissions with no more than G steps.
As long as a Y-STR haplotype-based test is used to define a clade,
then this test will be passed not only by the patrilineal descendants
of a single man, but also by many other men who are not.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Ken Nordtvedt <> wrote:
> So what? That line of ancestors is a drop in the bucket compared to the
> descendant population. And if we got into the wholesale business of being
> able to find old bones and type them, we'd adjust our language accordingly.
> We're hobby scientists, not mathematicians or logicians.
Dienekes' Anthropology Blog
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