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From: "Ricardo Costa de Oliveira" <>
Subject: [DNA] RES: What is a clade?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:18:04 -0200
The ideal type of a clade is a defined SNP and a defined modal STR.
I am a member of a specific clade J1b M365+ and we have a very specific
signature, (DYS 393-13, 390-22, 19-15, 458-18,2) completely distinct (at
least as candidates) from any other STR in the haplogroup.
> My point is that any description of a clade, as long as it is
> reasonably accurate and precise, is legitimate. STR-based
> don't always meet that specification, but they sometimes do.
> And SNP-
> based haplotypes do not automatically meet that
> specification, even if
> they usually do.
> On Oct 15, 2008, at 6:53 AM, Dienekes Pontikos wrote:
> > An haplotype-determined clade specification is impossible
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