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From: "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] What is a clade?
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:35:35 +0300
The case that comes to mind involves the E3b _clusters_ (not clades)
defined by Cruciani, some of which were later seen to map (to various
degrees of accuracy) to SNP-defined clades (haplogroups).
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ken Nordtvedt <> wrote:
> Actually some clades were found first (before the scientists realized they
> existed) using Y STRs, and then the scientists were directed where to look
> to connect some neglected SNPs to the already found clades --- thus
> promoting those clades to more respectable haplogroups.
> Some define things; others find things.
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