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From: Didier VERNADE <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] L21 dispersal
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:58:45 +0200 (CEST)
In France, I believe L21 went west but in Germany this same group may have been pushed north by R-U152 expansion. I am not saying that L21 is only at the west of Europe.
> Aren't there at least two L21+ Germans that we know about, as well: Dr.
> Krahn himself and a men named Krüger?
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> From: "Didier VERNADE" <>
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> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:23 PM
> Subject: [DNA] L21 dispersal
> > List,
> > The newly discovered R1b1b2 subclade L21 appears to be huge as it includes
> > R1b1b2e, the well known North west Irish group. It was also noticed that
> > the comparison of available haplotypes among those already tested L21+
> > shows large differences . I want to make a prediction for France on the
> > dispersal of this new L21 clade relative to the other R1b1b2 clades.
> > I would like to make a correlation between the known rough distribution of
> > blood types and the partitioning of the french territory between R-U152
> > R-SRY2627 and R-L21 . Also, I believe that L21 might have been first and
> > the 2 other groups took the control of territories in the east for R-U152
> > and in the south western part of france for R-SRY2627 at a later time.
> > Then I expect L21 to be predominant in a large north western part of
> > France and present at reduced levels all over the rest of the territory.
> > May be these L21 were the original "Britons" .
> > Cheers,
> > Didier
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