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From: Vincent Vizachero <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] TRMCA for R1b1
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:18:51 -0500
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On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Dienekes Pontikos wrote:

>> 3) the oldest forms of R1b1b2 (those formerly called ht35 but which
>> now have SNP-based labels) are found progressively more frequently in
>> southeastern Europe and southwestern Asia than in western Europe:
>> consistent with the new theory but not with the old.
>
> That may indicate the direction of the spread but not its age.


Exactly. But "out-of-Iberia" theory, at least as advanced by Semino
and those who cite her, is dependent on two disentangle-able
features: direction AND age. The failure of data support either
feature renders the theory falsified and calls for the advancement of
a new theory.

VV


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