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From: "Dienekes Pontikos" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] TRMCA for R1b1
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 18:16:01 +0200
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Moreover, STR variance in R-P25 Europeans north and west of the
Balkans is 0.31 (Behar et a. 2004); and STR variance of R1*(xR1a1)
within Italy is non-clinal (Capelli et al. 2006), although its
frequency is. The authors reasonably interpret the observed pattern
(higher frequency/variance of J2/E3b at lower latitude, uniform
variance with higher frequency at higher latitude for R1*(xR1a1)) as
migration of J2/E3b-bearing males into R1*(xR1a1)-populated territory.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Dienekes Pontikos
<> wrote:
> Or it may mean that R-M269 originated in Europe and not Asia Minor. If
> the variance of R-M269 in Sicily and the Balkans (Bosch: 0.3 in 9 of
> the 10 markers used by Cinnioglu) is roughly the same as among
> Anatolian Turks, then there is no reason to think that R-M269 came
> from Asia Minor to Europe and not vice versa. Either scenario might be
> true, and STR variance adds no information in this case.




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