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Subject: Re: [DNA] Blood of the Irish
Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:54:17 -0500
What is especially frustrating to me is that the many people who hadn't
really paid attention to the Iberian origin stories will receive this
information as fact, so it goes beyond those who hang on to the old
stories. It brings new believers.
From: Alan R <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] DNA] Blood of the Irish
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:29:24 +0000 (GMT)
It is rather frustrating that people prefer myths because this is
blinding them to the reality of the recent major progress in terms of
pinpointing Irish origins. What L21 seems to have shown with
unexpected clarity is that only a very very small percentage of the
Irish can be directly descended from Iberians. The L21 distribution is
for the first time, pointing to where the rough area of origin of most
of the Irish was. Probably much L21 arrived via Britain but there
seems little doubt that the most likely point of departure for any part
of the British Isles from the continent must have been from the coastal
fringe of the area where L21 provisionally seems to be well
represented: between NW France (which is twice as close to Ireland as
Spain is) and the Rhine area (assuming that this all long post-dates
doggerland etc). Obviously departure for the isles would have had to
have been from the coastal area of this stretch and would
have required settlers with a coastal/maritime background to undertake
the journey. This is perfectly in tune with what we know of most
periods of prehistory of the British Isles from archaeology and of
course makes complete geographical and maritime common sense for the
period after Doggerland had flooded but before the historic Germanic
migrations. This is an example of the genetics and the prevailing
direction of influence revealed in the archaeology corresponding
nicely.
Alan
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