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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Into Netherlands?
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:22:00 -0700
References: <75C308B372F64A7C8A9B3A6B1AF79E16@PC>


No, the yhrd marker set is useless for seeing I1-AS1. The bias of the
datasets is no big deal; the intrinsic total frequencies of the various
contributing countries of origin to the database are now pretty well known,
so the clade frequencies can be normalized to them.

By the way, I1-AS1 does not show strength in Denmark or other Scandinavian
origins, so I don't know how seriously to take coast-hopping Scandinavians
into Frisia as a scenario for the I1-AS1. Given the heavy German
contributions to AS1 and the brother clade AS8, I am looking for the
movement of a Germanic peoples from further east moving into the low
countries and the higher than expected presence found in the low countries
maybe due to the area being fairly empty when they moved in --- as is
suggested repeatedly by sources. Why British AS1 has as much or more
variance as the continental AS1 is odd to me. It could be that AS1 was
rather inconsequential in a demographic way and only flourished on the
continent when those people moved west into contact with the late Roman
empire and for one reason or another demographically flourished due to that
association --- and this latter era was not that much different than the
founding of AS1 populations in England?



---- Original Message -----
From: "Lancaster-Boon" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:37 PM
Subject: [DNA] Into Netherlands?


> Ken
>
> Wouldn't that sampling be very biased as usual? Is it possible to see AS1
> using the YHRD markers?
>
> Best Regards
> Andrew
>
>
> ------
> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Into Netherlands?
> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:12:54 -0700
> References:
> <002601c99c32$d6152e60$><COL105-W82B75EFC464AF6A230A70185A70@ph
> x.gbl>
>
> I1-AS1 is a huge and relatively young clade. Just taking 150 of its
> haplotypes, 100 maybe are British Isles, 40 of them German, and 20 of them
> from the Low countries.
>
>
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