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From: "Lancaster-Boon" <>
Subject: [DNA] Into Netherlands?
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:30:52 +0100

If this clade is not common in Denmark that is interesting.

I guess one option to consider is that this really is a case where a there
was once a small local concentration. But could we be talking about a
pre-Roman movement? We don't know all that much about that period, but we do
know that some tribes from Northern France and Belgium, moved to England
around the time the Romans were making moves into the area.

On the other hand, like it seems you are thinking it also makes me wonder
whether this is really a lineage from inland. If you could regionalize your
data in a more refined way down to county or province level it might help a
lot in this case, because different parts of the North Sea are at least
traditionally thought to have had different North Sea invaders.

Best Regards

From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Into Netherlands?
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:22:00 -0700
References: <75C308B372F64A7C8A9B3A6B1AF79E16@PC>

By the way, I1-AS1 does not show strength in Denmark or other Scandinavian
origins, so I don't know how seriously to take coast-hopping Scandinavians
into Frisia as a scenario for the I1-AS1. Given the heavy German
contributions to AS1 and the brother clade AS8, I am looking for the
movement of a Germanic peoples from further east moving into the low
countries and the higher than expected presence found in the low countries
maybe due to the area being fairly empty when they moved in --- as is
suggested repeatedly by sources. Why British AS1 has as much or more
variance as the continental AS1 is odd to me. It could be that AS1 was
rather inconsequential in a demographic way and only flourished on the
continent when those people moved west into contact with the late Roman
empire and for one reason or another demographically flourished due to that
association --- and this latter era was not that much different than the
founding of AS1 populations in England?

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