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From: Tsirigakis <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] EuroDNA calculator
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:59:32 +0300
First of all thank you for the information.
I posted those comments because I didn't know if they were accurate.
Also I have been away from the " DNA world " for about 1 year - so plenty of
catching up needed.
My ancestry is 75 % Greek + 25 % Maltese ( most of which is Siculo-Italian
in origin )
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Doug McDonald <> wrote:
> Tsirigakis wrote:
> > Just in case it didn't get through -- second sending.
> > Lately a lot of the posts aren't getting through.
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Tsirigakis <>
> > Date: Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM
> > Subject: EuroDNA calculator
> > To:
> > Hello List,
> > I have read this recently :
> > " A recent paper "A genome-wide genetic signature of Jewish ancestry ...,
> > Genome Biology 2009 " states that the majority of subjects with no Jewish
> > ancestry that are likely to be classified as Askhenazi by genetic
> > are of either Italian or Eastern Mediterranean descent."
> > Does any list member have more information on this ?
> I would need to see the paper, that reference is insufficient to find it.
> That said, yes, I have lots of info on this.
> It appears that my BGA analysis computer program, using 23andme data,
> is the best out there using publicly available comparison data.
> It would be a bit better if so-called "published" data since about a year
> was not locked up
> tight out of reach.
> Ashkenazi Jews do indeed test very similar to southern Italians and
> Greeks etc. They are easily distinguished from real Mideasteners
> and probably Turks, though I don't have enough Turk testees.
> However, if somebody is quite unmixed, their ancestors being in
> one place for a long time, even the southern Italians and
> Greeks can, marginally, be distinguished from the Jews. We are talking
> differences of 1-4% here for this latter distinction. The extent
> of a negative value for East Asian is particularly significant.
> Doug McDonald
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