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From: Doug McDonald <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-chromosomes of Jewish priests (2009 paper)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:45:01 -0500
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David Faux wrote:
>> This paper was written by
> outstanding genetic genealogists and conforms to the requirement of peer
> review before being published in a reputable journal.

That's simply meaningless. The reviewers ... maybe including Z. himself ...
were likely part of the same clique.



> Trying to dismiss the
> ZUF rates chosen by the authors by simply dividing by three - makes
> absolutely no sense to me, and perhaps not to some other similarly deluded
> non-conformist stubborn iconoclastic rabble rousers impervious to social
> pressure who are lurking about.

One MUST dismiss the Z. rates AS RATES ... they are simply wrong. Period.
The recent For. Sci. Int. Gen. paper reports more pedigree rates
that are in agreement with other pedigree rates. These are the gold standard.


If one wants slower effective rates, the proper methodology is to
incorporate computational models that include truly believeable
population dynamics.

Doug McDonald

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