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From: Janet Crawford <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] R-L21 vs. R-U152
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:55:06 +0100
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Just a gut feeling, Mike. I know the Celtic groups occupied bands in
Ireland that stretched across the country, and the "Eoganacht" band
even went across to Wales. Behaviour tells me that there might have
been a similar human pattern even earlier. I think they may have used
the ice or the edge of the ice to travel across bodies of water giving
them a e-w or w-e migration along the north, and then slowly moved
south. We see a greater density all along the northern areas and less
as we go south. As the ice retreaed, there would have been ample
water, game and areas glacially cleared of trees for agriculture and
grazing. Sounds ideal to me.

Janet

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Michael Walsh <> wrote:
> ------------> My response/question:
> Janet,
>
> You think L21 "went to the south all along the length of the band".
> You are implying that there was a north to south movement or
> expansion. Why?  Are there any archaeological expansions that fit that
> pattern?   Current densities are not strongly (perhaps not even
> lightly) indicative of origination.
>
> Regards, Mike
>
> ------------> From: Janet Crawford <> wrote:
> Alan, Perhaps we are missing the forest for the trees. I tend to think
> about L21 as a band across the north, and from there the spread went
> to the south all along the length of that band. That gives us greater
> densities in the north and lesser towards the south. Now where L21
> began, and how it migrated within that band is yet to be determined.
>
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