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From: "Bob Bootle" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Variance Assessment of R:U106 DYS425Null Cluster
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 21:08:34 -0000
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Thanks for your comment Ken.
Yes. I saw the SigmaG value in your program.
So it seems that all my calculated periods are to be treated as more or less
the same.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Variance Assessment of R:U106 DYS425Null Cluster


> After consideration of the statistical confidence intervals that go with
> the
> estimates, the timing of the various populations is inconclusive.
> All those ages must be considered as close to being statistically
> equivalent.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Bootle" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:04 PM
> Subject: [DNA] Variance Assessment of R:U106 DYS425Null Cluster
>
>
>>A collection was made of 153 haplotypes of R:U106 with 67 Markers and STR
>>DYS425=Null
>> The haplotypes were obtained from YSearch and other public databases.
>>
>> The haplotypes were sorted by geographical location using the country of
>> earliest ancestor and
>> where that failed, using the surname as an indicator of the country of
>> earlier ancestors.
>>
>> Two resources were used to identify the most likely nationality of the
>> surnames; firstly the
>> International Genealogical Index ( IGI ) which has surname entries from
>> European countries back to
>> the early 15th Century; secondly, the National Trust Names profiler,
>> which
>> uses the 1881 Census.
>>
>> Haplotypes with repeated surnames were removed from the list.
>>
>> The remaining 140 haplotypes were distributed as follows:-
>>
>> England 53
>> Germany 24
>> Ireland 14
>> Scotland 12
>> Wales 9
>> Switzerland 7
>> France 6
>> Austria 4
>> Belgium 3
>> Denmark 3
>> Italy 2
>> Finland 1
>> Portugal 1
>> Poland 1
>>
>>
>>
>> All haplotypes from mainland Europe were added together and compared with
>> those of England
>>
>>
>> The 53 England and 51 Mainland Europe haplotypes were inserted in the "
>> Generations 4 " spreadsheet
>> of Ken Nortdvedt.
>>
>> This showed that Ga coalescence England = 102 generations
>> Gb coalescence Europe = 95 generations
>> GABw = 101 generations
>>
>> On the face of it, this seems to suggest that the R:U106 Null425 RecLoH
>> may have been in England
>> for about 150 years before it was in mainland Europe.
>>
>>
>> Any constructive comments would be gratefully received.
>>
>> Bob Bootle
>>
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