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From: Vincent Vizachero <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Variance Assessment of R:U106 DYS425Null Cluster
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 09:20:06 -0500
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Perhaps your reluctance to elaborate is a symptom of your own cofusion
about the calculation.


Sent from my iPod

On Feb 4, 2010, at 5:05 AM, "Anatole Klyosov" <>
wrote:

>> From: Vincent Vizachero <>
>> Indeed, the calculation is not complex which leads one to wonder why
>> you are getting it wrong.
>> Perhaps if you posted your work, we could help you spot your error.
>
> I repeat:
>
>> I have heard these words many times from those who did not bother to
>> calculate margins of error themselves, and, more than that, they
>> had no
>> idea
>> how to calculate margins of error. However, they were quick with
>> their
>> "opinion". As always.
>
> The first and particularly the second sentence by VV only confirms my
> observation.
>
>
>
>> From: "Anatole Klyosov" <>
>>
>> Dear Ken,
>>
>> I have heard these words many times from those who did not bother to
>> calculate margins of error themselves, and, more than that, they
>> had no
>> idea
>> how to calculate margins of error. However, they were quick with
>> their
>> "opinion". As always.
>>
>> In that regard, it is strange to hear those words from you. You
>> know how to
>> calculate margins of error. Why did not you do it, before
>> expressing your
>> opinion? In my book of science it is a no-no.
>>
>> I took 284 of 25-marker haplotypes, verified that they are derived
>> from one
>> (technically) common ancestor, and found that they contained 1853
>> mutations
>> from the base (ancestral) haplotype. Your take?
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Anatole Klyosov
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Anatole Klyosov" <>
>>
>> Null-DYS425-U106, 3325+/-540 ybp
>> R-U106*, 4175+/-430 ybp
>>
>> Anatole Klyosov
>
>
>>> From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
>>> But that 3000 years for U106 with null 435 seems somewhat younger
>>> than
>>> the age of all of U106 (...)
>
>
>
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