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From: Alan R <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] : low variance MRCA dates for P310 clades inItalyandSEEurope
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 03:38:05 +0000 (GMT)


I really just wanted to press this to see how near we are to making a call.  We are obvously not there yet but I think what evidence there is is favouring the idea of an initially central European route for ht15. 


Dear Alan,
    Your thoughts on this matter are essentially the same as what I have
thought about this topic.  Now if we can just figure out the timing of these
SNPs a little bit more precisely!

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Subject: Re: [DNA] : low variance MRCA dates for P310 clades in

Again not conclusive but certainly suggestive that L11 may have occurred
among an L51 lineage who were heading into central Europe.  Clearly where
L11 happened and what direction it was moving in would also be a major
dictating factor on its the history of all its downstream clades.  I see one
big possible geographical window for an early split in R1b1b2 on its way
into Europe  if some had gone through Anatolia directly to Bulgaria etc and
some going more by sea from the in and around the Levant to Greece, the
Adriatic etc. That split could lead to a long period of separation between
R1b1b2 groups and due to geography it may have been some time before they
came back into contact. 


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