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From: "Tim Janzen" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] : low variance MRCA dates for P310cladesinItalyandSEEurope
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:26:29 -0800
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Dear Vince,
You are correct that SW Asia would be just as reasonable of a guess
as SE Europe for the area of origin of both R-L23 and R-L51. It will be
interesting to see where the hot spots of both R-L23 and R-L51 are as more
haplotypes become available. R-M269 very likely occurred somewhere in Asia
and probably not in Europe.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Vincent Vizachero
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] : low variance MRCA dates for P310

It's hard to imagine that R-L23 originated in Europe, given the hugely
Asia-centric distribution of that paragroup.

If you are compelled to put an origin label on R-M269 or R-L23, then
you'd have to prefer "SW Asia" over "SE Europe".

Even for R-L51, if you had to specify an origin point I'd go with "SW
Asia/SE Europe" to cover the uncertainty.

By the time we get down to R-L11 I think SE/Central Europe may turn
out to be right in the end.


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