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From: Larry Vick <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Naming Family Finder Projects
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 06:50:39 -0800 (PST)
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I think Relative Finder and Family Finder could help us find the missing surnames of females in our pedigree (and not just the ones in our matrilineal pedigree).  I know much more about the males in my pedigree than I know about the females because I know a much higher percentage of the surnames of the males than the females.  Without the surname it is hard to trace an ancestor’s family.
I have been keeping track of common matches among our VICK and Allied Families DNA Project members, and I am especially interested when the shared segment appears to be identical.  My hope is that these patterns will help us to isolate a shared line and to find missing surnames.  Unfortunately, it all depends upon people sharing information.  Perhaps the next generation tools will make it easier to predict the lines we share with other people.

From: Diana Gale Matthiesen <>
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 9:32:22 AM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Naming Family Finder Projects

I'm unlikely to join an atDNA project, unless I
could somehow see it helping me with my paper genealogy the way Y-DNA testing

What I'm really looking forward to is a much larger mtDNA FGS database, to find
matches supporting the matrilineal lines in my pedigree.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: On Behalf Of Tim Janzen
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:57 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Naming Family Finder Projects
> Dear Diana,
>     Like you, I am also composite of numerous national and
> ethnic groups.  It would be appropriate for me (and you) to
> join quite a few
> regional or countrywide projects if they form.  I continue to
> believe that
> over time that properly managed and organized regional
> projections (using
> either FTDNA Family Finder data or 23andMe data) are going to
> be helpful to
> people.  Regional projects could be split based on geography
> if they got too
> large or unwieldy.  Family Finder projects (whether based on
> descendents
> from a specific ancestor/couple or regional/ethic in origin)
> are only going
> to be successful if there is sufficient volunteer help from
> interested and
> knowledgeable genealogists to make them successful. 
>     I think it is important that people catch a vision of
> what autosomal
> testing can do for genealogical research.  If relatively few
> people catch
> that vision and few dedicate themselves to helping manage
> these projects
> then the Family Finder data will simply be floating around and won't
> necessarily be put to as productive of a use as it could be.
>     I think that the Mennonite group is leading the way on
> this topic
> largely because we have a group of people who are already
> highly interested
> in this topic and we have someone (specifically Wayne
> Kauffman) who has
> sufficient database management skills that he is able to help
> us analyze the
> data.
>     I think your idea of having autosomal haplogroup
> projects dedicated
> to studying the inheritance of a single SNP mutation is certainly a
> reasonable one, but it would be best if the SNP was a
> relatively recent one
> (and thus less common one) that occurred within the past
> 300-500 years than
> ones such as C282Y and H63D (the two SNPs that cause
> hemochromatosis) since
> both SNPs are so common that projects dedicated to their
> study would involve
> a large percentage of the total number of testees and thus
> projects devoted
> to their study would be unmanageable.
> Sincerely,
> Tim Janzen
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Diana Gale
> Matthiesen
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:08 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [DNA] Naming Family Finder Projects
> The problem with having regional or ethnic autosomal DNA
> (atDNA) projects is
> trying to decide where you divide them up.  You couldn't even
> make a project
> suitable for me, one person, because I'm a composite of
> numerous national
> and ethnic groups, not to mention several haplogroups, who
> haven't had a
> common ancestor in thousands of years.  If you look at just
> me and my first
> cousins, who are certainly closely related, we're literally
> all over the map
> because my parents' siblings married into seven different
> nationalities.
> What project(s) would you put us in?  European?  What is the
> point of having
> a group that large? Who could manage such a project?
> I can think of only one logical kind of atDNA group to
> create, and that
> would be a haplogroup.  Studying the inheritance of a single
> SNP mutation
> would definitely make sense as you could clearly define the
> boundaries of
> the group.
> Diana

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