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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Clades, Definitions, Discoveries, FTDNA
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:33:41 -0700
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>

> So, Ken's "Jewish clades" and "Christian clades" monophyletic, I presume
> based
> on his assertion that clades are defined by their "demographic
> properties," not
> their "tags" (genetic mutations). Ooookay.


[[ Clades are not defined, they are discovered. So they are not defined by
demographic properties. They are the RESULT of demographic processes.

Ken has no Christian clades because he has not been doing ydna research in
exotic places like China or India where historic Christian clades could
conceivably show up.

And yes, concerning the Jewish clades in haplogroup I, specifically, each
shows strong evidence of a present-day population of males descending from a
single male centuries ago.
That was explicitly stated in an earlier message. ]]



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