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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Clades, Definitions, Discoveries, FTDNA
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:03:00 -0700
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From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>
> You said:
> "When I said clades were properties of the y tree (part of independently
> existing nature) whether or not yet discovered by any of us, I forgot to
> that the clades were demographic properties of the y tree with or without
> (independent of) any mutational tags (STRs, SNPs, etc.) we had as tools to
> find the clades. The tags do not make the clades; the demographic events
> collectively make the clades."
> So defined, these are not phylogenetic clades, nor is the process
> It's cultural anthropology.
I believe my position on what y tree clades are has rather completely been
spelled out over the past. What you choose to call them or reject calling
them is not important.
If I ever uttered the word "cladistics" to describe what is going on, I
pledge to wash my mouth out with soap.
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