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From: John Ritchings <>
Subject: [DNA] British Genealogy
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:23:15 +0000


I have been involved with several US groups and organisations which
sought to have UK citizens take DNA tests. There are in my
perception several reasons why there is a reluctance: Cost. There is
no personal benefit for themselves. Revealing family secrets. How
the information will be stored and used.

On the other hand the US researchers sometimes present a less than
professional approach which puts off any idea of participating. A
complete lack of understanding of UK and European history to absolute
farcical levels and an unwillingness to learn is not unusual.



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Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:21:39 +0000
From: Janet Crawford <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] English genealogy
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Take it one step further. There are MANY people in the US who
gloriously extol their "royal" British ancestry who might get rather
upset to discover they are not "royal" at all, or have someone else
discover that fact. Sure would stop a lot of undue bragging, however.


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:01 PM, <> wrote:
> One reason Brits do not want to participate is because ?they are
> afraid DNA
> testing is going to disprove their lineage. ?I offered ?to pay for a
> test for a Philipps line that I would especially like to ?identify
> and got
> this response yesterday:
> *********************
> Yes, the letter you quoted certainly explains why those with old
> pedigrees
> they like are unwilling to be tested. I don't know what percentage
> falls
> into ?this category, probably small, but enough to make a big
> difference when
> one ?wants to test a particular line.
> I know of a similar case (in the US) in one branch of my Harrison ?
> family.
> I can't help thinking that an even number of Britons have grave ?
> concerns
> about privacy. ?I know one Englishman who runs a private project ?at
> Family
> Tree, probably for this reason. ?At one point, I persuaded ?him to
> add his
> haplotype to Y-search, which he did,then suddenly removed it ?after
> several
> months.
> While privacy is less of an issue in the US, another of ?my Harrison
> cousins refused my offer of a free test for that ?reason.
> If fear of either sort is the underlying cause for the reluctance
> exhibited in the UK, then the best way to get a positive response
> might be to
> publish the family haplotype in places where British genealogists
> are likely to
> see it, along with a discussion of the information testing has
> provided and
> how ?that information might be used to trace the family history back
> many
> more ?generations.
> I tend to believe that there are plenty of people on both sides of the
> Atlantic who don't understand what DNA testing can do for them and,
> because of
> that ignorance, ?also have overblown fears of what it might do to ?
> them.
> While this approach ?may not help with the problem you ?described,
> it could
> influence some who would never order a test or look at ?a database
> otherwise.
> Lindsey

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