Archiver > GENEALOGY-DNA > 2010-03 > 1268627710

From: Angela Cone <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] The tree house definition (was: Clades, Definitions,Discoveries, FTDNA)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:35:10 +1300
References: <><019d01cac3f6$30f76050$5e82af48@Ken1>
In-Reply-To: <019d01cac3f6$30f76050$5e82af48@Ken1>

Ken: - the point is that different people are talking about different

If you are speaking in different languages that just happen to have the same
words, then of course people aren't going to agree. It's just like the
conversations my mother and my deaf father have. Often both think the other
has completely gone insane, - whereas in reality they are having totally
different conversations. (he can't hear half of what's said and just guesses
what's been said, often getting it very wrong)

If different people are talking about totally different things when using
the same words,.. then people aren't going to agree - not because people are
missing the point, or someone is right and someone is wrong,.. just because
effectively two people are using the same language for different concepts.
The words might be the same, but the meaning is different.

We need definitions to make sure that people are talking about the same

The point is that different people are "talking in different languages"

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Ken Nordtvedt <>wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angela Cone" <>
> > What all of these clade definition arguments boil down to ....
> [[ But the arguments are not about definitions..... You may try to boil
> them down to definitions and YCCs and the like, but you then miss the point
> Ken ]]
> -------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to
> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the
> quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This thread: