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From: John E Mellick <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Y-DNA clade naming (Ken Nordtvedt)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:21:02 -0400
I think the following post shows part of what the problem is about.
Diana insists clades are defined by SNPs,
but Ken discovers clades, for which SNPs haven't been found yet.
Dinaric and Isles are Ken's names for those undefined clades.
>Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:40:57 -0600
>From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Diana Gale Matthiesen" <>
> > So, looking up M359.... I can only find an M359.2, which is a synonym for
> > P41.2
> > which is the defining SNP for I2a2a. M359.2 may be the more useful name,
> > to
> > you, but I2a2a is the more useful name, to me.
>And then Ken said:
>But P41.2+ is no longer I2a2a; it's I2a2a1 because snps were found to split
>I2a2 into its Dinaric and Isles clade branches.
>Or others might put it: "old I2a2a" has changed to I2a2a1.