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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Expected NPE's Over 800-1000 Years
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:01:22 -0600
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From: "Sandy Paterson" <>
> I recently had a look at 67 marker clan Donald haplotypes, the R1a-Red
> subgroup (the Norse one that contains the current clan chiefs) compared to
> the R1b-Green subgroup
> (M222+). The first group seems to exhibit far less diversity than the
> M222+
> group.
> Would that, in your opinion, suggest that M222+ has been in Clan Donald
> bloodlines for considerably longer than the Nordic DNA?

I don't know how old the clan structure really is? I would not be surprised
if some of the y-clades predate clans as we see them.

M222+, being so robust in certain areas, could very well enter a clan's data
of haplotypes via multiple males from older indigenous background
That would lead to higher variance for it taken as a whole.

Certainly for the Hamilton clan data, I1 and R1b..... contribute via
multiple forms, although numerically there are two dominant I1 clusters

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