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From: vernade didier <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Sephardim or Moors ?
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:57:25 +0000 (GMT)
So, to make things clear : you think that many of those identified as sepharads by Adams et al. are not truly sepharads in origin (Y DNA) .
Otherwise a large set of G among sepharads would require an explanation.
I had written :
> > This post is for G haplogroup among "iberians". Below
> are the 2 opposite
> > choices I found : the Nuevo Mexico project is grouping
> them as "Moors"
> > while Adams et al. (2008 - see below) are mainly
> considering them as
> > ancient sephardic populations (not all G are called
> sephardic but there is
> > a clear enhancement of "Gs" among sephardic jews as
> filtered out by Adams
> > et al.)
> > links :
> > Nuevo Mexico project
> > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/nuevomexico/default.aspx?section=yresults
> > Adams et al. (2008)
> > The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and
> Intolerance: Paternal
> > Lineages of Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the
> Iberian Peninsula
> > http://ukpmc.ac.uk/@@3d19061982
> > So, Sephardic or Moors ? May be neither of these
Grandcross replied :
> Neither the Portugal Project (227) nor the Azores DNA
> Project (141)
> characterize haplogroup G as Sephardic or "Moor", howsoever
> that term is
> defined. The Iberian Project describes G and its subclades
> as follows:
> "...The Alan Sarmatians were military allies of the Vandals
> and the Suebi
> during the conquest of Iberia, it is likely this is the
> origin of haplogroup
> G2 in Spain. The Alan Sarmatians' ancient homeland was the
> Mountains. 4% of modern day Iberians share this origin."
> Personally, I think the conclusions reached in the Adams
> paper are
> fundamentally flawed.