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From: Michael Keaveney <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] New I2a results
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:22:28 +0100
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Hello All,

Being the Keaveney in question I find this conversation very interesting.

Yes, Lindsey is correct, I do not have too many 12/12 matches, but I can
trace 90% of them to the Strokestown/Tulsk/Elphin area of Co. Roscommon (
better known as Rathcroghan of Irish folklore). By the way I come from
Galway as opposed to Galloway so this is perhaps a clue to the reasoning
that this Keaven ancestor did indeed come from Galway/Roscommon.

I joined the Kevan project because of it's similarity to my own surname and
was for a long time the only member with DNA results. It is indeed a
surprise to find that I have a 12/12 match with the Kevan tested.

Ken is probably bored of this by now but the Keaveney surname dates back to
972AD in the Galway/Roscommon territory of Hy Many (Ui Maine) where the said
individual was chief and was killed in a skirmish in Keshcorran, Co Sligo.

I remember Ken recently referencing the Hamiltons as an example of clan
structure where there is great diversity in the number of unrelated male
lineages. I would suspect that the Irish born Hamiltons maternal ancestor
spent some time at Mahon's Strokestown Park House, located in an area close
to Castlerea where according to Capelli's 2003 UK DNA census Isles C2 were
found to be at least 7% of the population.

As Ken has said it is almost certain that all I2a Kavanagh/Cavanaughs will
also match Kevan.
Other Keaveney variants are Guiney, Cavney, Kaveny and Geaveney.

All the Best,

Michael



On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Ken Nordtvedt <>wrote:

>
> For what it is worth, the estimated tmrca for I2a2b-Isles-C2 clade with
> L161+ is 1500 years.
>
> And I bet that founder lived in Ireland.
>
> So the Hamilton member was probably an Irish guy on a Hamilton estate who
> adopted the boss's surname or had a liason with the boss's wife or
> daughter.
>
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