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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] mtDNA descriptions- set in stone?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:36:56 -0600
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Vizachero" <>

> All haplogroups are clades, of course.

[[ Surely ]]

>all clades are haplogroups

[[ not necessarily, certainly not at now and even in the future. If y
haplogroups are tied to unique collections of UEP-like mutations such as
snps as their definitions, there are some clades which may never acquire
such elevated status, even with full y sequencing --- although such clades
will probably be the exception given what we know about snp mutation
rates. ]]


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