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From: Doug McDonald <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] SRY2627, L165 and L176.2
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:27:42 -0500
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On 7/23/2010 9:39 AM, vernade didier wrote:
> List,
> I know that it's difficult to know all these new SNPs. Here is a reminder. R1b1b2 has a main
> division in U106+ and P312+ ; we will focus on this later group (P312+) . L176 is a STR know in
> chimp as 4 tandem repeats of a pentanucleotide AAAAC on the Y chromosome. In man most people have
> 5 repeats of this AAAAC but a few ones were found to have 6 repeats and they are called L176+ .
> Among WTY results one case was found in a R1a sample (probably "private")

It's not truly "private" in R1a. Numerous positives have been found.

It is now pretty clear that L176.1 is a "Somerled" SNP: that is, it is likely that
this whole line is L176.1+, most certainly back to the year 1300 and probably
older. It seems to be synonymous to R1a with YCAII = 19,21 and DYS459 = 8,10;
though all L176.1+ cases I am familiar with in addition fit the rest of the Somerled

Doug McDonald

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