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From: "Richard Stevens" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] U106 in North Germany
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:53:37 -0400
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Ken,

What were those frequencies, if you don't mind?

I noticed in quickly scanning the Y-DNA Results page of the Germany Project
(http://www.familytreedna.com/public/germany/default.aspx?section=yresults)
that it seems most of those with 390=23 who have 67 markers also have the
telltale 492=13, which almost always signifies U106+ status. Unfortunately,
only their surnames are listed, with no place of origin, and not all the
surnames appear to be German.

Rich


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 00:17
Subject: Re: [DNA] U106 in North Germany


. . .
> U106 aka S21 was discovered some time AFTER the first evidence of a cline
> concerning DYS 390/391 = 23/11 R1b.... was found in western Europe which
> peaked in the general Netherlands, NW Germany, Denmark region ("Greater
> Frisia" to give it the irritating nickname, although I see some vintage
> 2004
> messages I sent out on this subject using the name "AngloSaxony" as well.)
> The frequency cline for this variety of western R1b... was calibrated
> relative to the 24/11 and 24/10 frequencies of R1b....... As far as I
> know,
> the increased data of today does not change much these frequency shares as
> we move from region to region in western europe. I have the original
> frequencies obtained by geographically clustering the yhrd haplotypes . .
> .

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