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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Frames and Hamiltons
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:30:47 -0600
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Statistically, I'd say the geography and age of I1-AS1 suggests the
Hamilton-A ancestral line in lowland Scotland got to the Isles via the
Anglo-Saxon immigrations of the 5th century, but it arriving via a knight
from Saxon country as part of the Norman invasion is also consistent. There
are a few Danish I1-AS1, but definately peripheral in the overall
population.

We've reached the stage with I1-AS1 that all the British isles examples,
numbering in the hundreds of surnames, should be sorted by shire. I do know
lowland Scotland has a healthy contingent of I1-AS1 surnames.




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From: "Aaron Salles Torres" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [DNA] Frames and Hamiltons


Would you still say this Continent & Isles MRCA who lived 2,000 years ago
for Hamilton A is incongruous with Norman invasion origins historically
assigned to this family?

Thanks,
Aaron Torres

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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:34:18 -0600
From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: Re: [DNA] Frames and Hamiltons
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The variance age estimate of I1-AS1 both in the Isles and on the continent
give about 2000 years back to its MRCA. My personal view is that I1-AS1
began among the Saxons who expanded and prospered due to proximity to the
frontier with Roman empire and who in the historic period expanded into
Netherlands north of the Rhine as well as participated in the Anglo-Saxon
immigrations into British isles.




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