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From: "Ken Nordtvedt" <>
Subject: [DNA] Albanian Hg I ydna
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:36:33 -0600

I have always been intriqued by Albania since going with my Dad to an Albanian cafe in Chicago many decades ago and listening to a totally strange language sound coming from Europeans. And indeed, Albanian is an isolate in the IE family of languages. Origins of the Albanians is still a mystery; most common theory is they came from further east, inland Balkans, away from the Dalmatian coast and up from the lowlands. Their presence in the present location is fairly recent.

So when quite a bit of haplogroup I M170+ dna showed up in a paper on Albanian ydna by Ferri et al, I obtained some of the more interesting I samples to do further downstream testing of snps. Some of the results are quite interesting.

Three probable I2* samples were found (P37- and S23-)

And today I confirmed there was one L161+ I2a2b-Isles example and probably of the old clade B2. While a number of L161+ Isles had previously been found on the continent, stretched along the north German plain, finding a L161+ deep into SE Europe is more interesting. Last year when I2a*-F haplogroup was isolated, with F standing for French where the center of gravity of the members seems to be, I was equally surprised to find an I2a*-F example from another Albanian paper.

The rest of the haplogroup I found in the recent Albanian paper is the expected I2a2a-Dinaric, but the amount of I1 and I2b1 was surprisingly large to me. The I1 samples included two with very rare 8 repeats at DYS391.

Since the STR haplotypes of the paper on Albanian ydna are mini, I next plan to purchase 67 marker haplotypes for some of the most interesting samples.

Ken

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